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16/05/2016 18:48 — Anonymous
Ouch!!  

The party's over...

I won't need that new hard drive...
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16/05/2016 18:04 — Anonymous
Looks like Solidfiles also starting a Premium membership today and I'm getting much slower download speed because of it compared to before despite using Internet Download Manager.
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16/05/2016 18:03 — Anonymous
A small point - Norton's heuristics category is for things that are suspicious to them or unusual, not proven threats.  For example, it gets triggered if a file has two extensions, like 'video.mp4.mp4' which sometimes happens by error and with no bad intent or content.  A heuristic is a short-cut for a fast decision, a starting point.  I would go with such a flag, but I would want better evidence before drawing your conclusions about solidfiles.

P.S. If it gets reported as you describe it, Norton won't let you even go to their pages anymore without overrides.

I'm more worried about whether solidfiles actually is desperate for cash, and if so how long till they disappear.
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16/05/2016 14:54 — DrCanuk
I appreciate all the above input in regard to this problem.  To update, I checked Solidfiles today (Mon.) and clicked to download [HorribleSubs] Gakusen Toshi Asterisk - 19 [480p].mkv, and after three malware site tabs had been opened (& closed by me), the file shown ready for download was [HorribleSubs] Gakusen.exe, which was the same SAPE.Heur.DE8B3 virus file now originating from updatefilesranch.com.

Sorry everyone, I just figured out why this problem was occurring.  Solidfiles changed the format of their download page twice recently, including last Fri..  There used to be two download buttons side-by-side, but on Fri. it changed to a single button (that led to the aforementioned malware sites).  After scrolling down, I found the "Direct download link", which is how the download page had been set up in the past, but this link used to be visible without scrolling down.  While this may just be another deceptive tactic by Solidfiles, I was not aware that any such site would willingly accept money to place malicious links on their download pages whose sole purpose is to mislead users into downloading viruses / malware onto their systems.  Go figure!

Again thank you for all the suggestions!
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16/05/2016 04:55 *Anonymous
Solidfiles has gotten more aggressive with their ads, and maybe less concerned about what companies they take money from.

In addition to the cautions mentioned above, people here have suggested two ways of avoiding solidfiles problems:

1. Disable Javascript before you open the link to solidfiles.  This makes the content link available with no pop-ups or tabs.  I just tried this on the example you mentioned: My adblocker avoiding displaying any ads, and disabling Javascript before opening the page avoided any pop-ups or tabs.  The only link available to be selected was the content link for the mkv file.  There are various add-ons for various browsers to enable and disable Javascript.  I use one for Firefox called "QuickJava".

2. Use Internet Download Manager or JDownloader2.  These auto-downloaders avoid the gunk and get the goods.
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16/05/2016 04:52 — Anonymous
Once you learn how to recognise potentially harmful files, you dont need anti-virus software anymore. Never use one since 4 years ago, 0 case of virus for me.

Downloading an unknown exe file is a bad idea.
Always enable the file extension.
When you see a few download file button, just hover over them and look at the directory they'r leading to at the bottom of the browser. Pick the right one, the others ALWAYS leads to some harmful software download.
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16/05/2016 00:23 — Cryptic
Make sure the download link is from solidfiles and if you see a .exe, cancel it. It's not that hard to avoid as long as you have adblock and you check the links.
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15/05/2016 23:47 — Anonymous
Remember their tagline that were used upon the first few months of opening their website? I think it goes somewhere like "Hosting file with no bullshit". Then, the motto disappeared after a while and that's when the ads started pilling in. It could only get worse now, who knew.
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15/05/2016 23:38 — DrCanuk
I know that AT has no control over the websites were the anime show files are uploaded, but has anyone else had problems with Solidfiles only downloading malware / virus files since 5/13/16?  

I am familiar with Solidfiles' long history of opening up new tabs to malware sites a few times when clicking their "Download File" button, before finally allowing the anime file to be downloaded.  But since Friday, rather than eventually downloading an anime file, Solidfiles instead attempts to download a malware or virus file.  

For example, when I clicked to download [HorribleSubs]_Assassination_Classroom_S2_-_18_[480p].mkv on Fri., a file named [HorribleSubs]_Assassi.exe was downloaded.  My Norton AV caught and deleted this exe file, stating it was heuristic virus named SAPE.Heur.B6994 from cleanbundlesmeta.com. Saturday and today the virus file (SAPE.Heur.DE8B3) originated from updatepackage.com.  As these ongoing actions can only damage Solidfiles reputation, could their website have been hijacked?

Just curious.
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15/05/2016 15:17 — Anonymous
No, the market is that way.
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15/05/2016 05:54 — goldfish
Hi there
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15/05/2016 05:41 — Yogicat
Moreover, if you click the filename of the file...
https://animetosho.org/file/buriburi-c...mkv.313446
you'd find that the CRC32 value in the filename matches with the CRC32 generated at the server after the file was downloaded.
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15/05/2016 04:33 *Gurphy_TC
Typically, that's what crc values look like.  It's a way to check on transmission errors and it's sometimes used in irc to search for files (Wiki crc for details).  Use the AT search box and get:
https://animetosho.org/view/buriburi-c...mkv.988692
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15/05/2016 04:17 — Anonymous: "Anonymouse"
Exp : Title [720p][FDCF4FB2].mkv
Hey anyone know what "FDCF4FB2" mean in title? And how do we get that?
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15/05/2016 03:08 — Anonymous
This place has gotten too quiet again apparently.
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12/05/2016 23:59 — Anonymous
My cable system relies on ratings from:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/
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12/05/2016 15:58 — Anonymous
As long as it's horror. I like seeing ghosts in movie or getting spooked. Just recently watched The Witch 2015. Pretty nice atmospheric movie that set in the olden time, no wonder it got the praise it is getting.

Oh, I don't want to be recommended on something like Friday the 13th. Slasher flick isn't horror to me. Askef this recommendation thing on IMDB but they kept giving me SAW and something similar, despite having exained the type of movie I wanted.
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12/05/2016 01:07 — Anonymous
Thanks, I meant the "-Anon" "The only way to survive.."

But I enjoyed re-reading about Burke from your link.  Quite a life.

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12/05/2016 00:45 — Anonymous
Like actually somewhat scary or just in the horror genre?
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11/05/2016 14:54 — Anonymous
Thanks. Any other suggestion?
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11/05/2016 13:12 — admin
Ah, very useful to know!
I'll see if it can be added, and we can see how well it works.
Thanks again for the suggestion :)
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11/05/2016 13:00 — admin
Thanks for the compliment, I'm sorry but I'd have to disagree with you there a bit.

I'm not picking sides in any way, if that's what you think. I think both parties (or sides) have their faults, and stating "he hasn't learned a thing" is being helpful to no-one.
I'm making these long posts because I believe that they will be useful. Trying to reason with someone who is just looking to throw in some last minute punches is not. Nonetheless, I would kindly prefer it if you would drop the subject.

Thank you.
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11/05/2016 12:51 — admin
Appreciate the time and effort you put in to writing all that!

You will always get some comments that don't agree with you around, possibly even toxic ones. It's the internet, and people have a tendency to want to express their views (just like you are). How you deal with these will depend on what works best for you, but if you get too hung up on them, it probably won't end well for you.

It came down to the fact that we initially stated these issues with the word 'F_ked', and therefore Anons wanted us to be wrong, and that's all it amounted to.
I think it's fair that if you decide to use strong language, you're going to need to have a strong case to justify it. Of course, 'strong' is subjective and you obviously think it's justified, others didn't. This is really just a difference in opinion, and I don't see it as being that much of a problem here.
(but do be aware that if some random person just started throwing curses around, it's only natural to assume that this is "stirring the pot", to use your own words)

I'd say the start of your problems began around here:
If these don't matter to you, then go continue enjoying inferior / bugged releases.

I understand the motivations that drive people to do great work, such as the desire to do things better than anyone else. I also know that it can be tempting to make others very much aware of it. I'm not saying that you should stop doing this, but just keep in mind how far you should go, or rather, what is said.

I certainly wouldn't win any favors if I described visitors to other anime DDL websites in a negative fashion, even if I may think that AT is so much better (well, it is, but let's keep that to ourselves).
(okay, it is possible to do it, but I won't go into that here)

If it had been described like you just have here...
if they were happy with previous releases, that's fine, be happy with them
...things would've been much better.

Again, I fully I agree looking back on things that the initial statement made could have been worded much nicer
To be clear, yes, using nice language everywhere can help, but this isn't ideal for everyone. Some feel that they need to use certain language to express themselves, and I'm not asking anyone to restrict themselves from this. Rather, if you do choose to do this, just need to be a little more tactful and sometimes put in some forethought as to how others may respond.
Remember, if the purpose of your post was to inform others, and if the discussion gets off-track, consider whether you still want to be in the discussion. If it starts developing into an argument, and you think that it no longer aligns with your initial aim, it may be wise not to add fire to it and just tactfully back out.

I mean how else would you refer to comments like 'you drool'
All sorts of language, accusations etc gets used when things go downhill. When making judgements and assessments, try not to base things based on that. Note: I'm not justifying that this is good behavior in any way whatsoever.
How people deal with these things varies, but I'd just want to point out that directly retaliating usually results in a degenerating back-and-forth word fight - something I'm sure you don't want to be stuck in. Personally I just ignore these things; doesn't necessarily work for everyone though.

They basically were in the mindset that what I said was wrong and Coalgirls was 100% perfect, regardless of any reasoning behind what was said or shown.
Similar to above - I don't believe this to be the case.

Unfortunately we're unable to delete or edit the initial comments to be more tactful?
Comments made by guests cannot be edited here, which is common amongst many systems. Registered users can edit their comments (and there's no time limitation, unlike in some other places).


Thanks again for the reply and I hope this has been of help, if only a little. Please understand that I'm not picking on you in any way, rather, I'm hoping that what I can do here may be of use to you, and this isn't just limited to comments at AT.
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11/05/2016 11:55 — Anonymous
Try to wait for Conjuring 2 within a few month.
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11/05/2016 07:12 — Anonymous
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke

Looked like he used to be from Ireland.
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11/05/2016 06:27 — Anonymous
Thanks.  I think I understand it.  I wondered what language/country it was originally from?
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11/05/2016 04:59 — Anonymous
"The only way to survive in the world to do as what you pleased, without trying to hurt/interfered with anyone in the process."

- Anon
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11/05/2016 04:56 — Anonymous
Anyone can recommend recent horror movies to watch? Anime lacked a lot in this category.
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11/05/2016 02:46 — Koby
Thank you. ^_^
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11/05/2016 02:45 — Anonymous
You live in your own strange, little world Koby.
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11/05/2016 02:41 — Anonymous
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke
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11/05/2016 02:37 *Koby
Comments like this just validate the points I brought up. The context of my comments don't matter.
Stiring the pot for the sake of stiring the pot, even though it was done a long time ago.
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11/05/2016 02:25 — Anonymous
Thanks admin,

It was a good effort, but he hasn't learned a thing.  Your good counsel plus 100 years, maybe.
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11/05/2016 02:04 — Anonymous
I disagree.  You have to fight for what is right.  You have to fight for what you love.  Otherwise, what are you, and what might you lose?  

Think less about your comfort and more about the future.
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11/05/2016 01:41 *Rhuoghiln
- Change of mind.
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11/05/2016 01:06 — Koby
lol, I had to edit it down quite a bit to be within the maximum character count limitation.
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11/05/2016 00:57 — Anonymous
What in the heck is with that journalist level of post? It's way too long.
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11/05/2016 00:29 *Koby
Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate your insight into the matter.

I usually stir-clear from places like 4chan and the like so I'm honestly not use to dealing with the kind of people that'd rather stir the pot rather than rationally discuss what issues they have with something. Unfortunately that wasn't the case here. Although going by the consistent misspelling of the group name and such I suspect it was really only two anons that created the whole drama-filled comments.

In the end, I think it didn't really matter what was said or what could have been said (at least after the initial statement was made). I agree that we could have described the issues we mentioned with nicer tact. However it seems regardless of how nicely put that it would not have calmed the storm in this regard. Most of the anons seemed to care very little of the context of any post. Instead of discussing the issue of how we worded it, it went straight into childish silly and petty drama (I mean how else would you refer to comments like 'you drool'). Unfortunately we're unable to delete or edit the initial comments to be more tactful?

I said time and time again, if they were happy with previous releases, that's fine, be happy with them, but like the rest of the content of my comments, it was overlooked and ignored because it didn't matter what I said, they were already in rampage mode. They basically were in the mindset that what I said was wrong and Coalgirls was 100% perfect, regardless of any reasoning behind what was said or shown.

I fully understand that people in general won't care about things on the same level we do. I also understand that what we consider major issues (subtitles not appearing at all), could be considered minor to others. We have different levels of standards, that is certainly made clear.

The fact that the subtitles used weren't the batch subs and therefore had translation issues, the fact that the subs were possibly simply sushi'd and mistimed, the fact that some signs didn't appear at all, the fact that those that did had clipping issues. None of this mattered. It came down to the fact that we initially stated these issues with the word 'F_ked', and therefore Anons wanted us to be wrong, and that's all it amounted to. It didn't matter that the fact was that the issues did indeed exist. Whether they consider it a minor thing or not doesn't change the fact that however minor, these issues exist and we as a group took it upon ourselves to correct them. Whether they care about that or not, doesn't matter. We wanted a release we could watch and archive and be happy with and thus this was the result.

Again, I fully I agree looking back on things that the initial statement made could have been worded much nicer and we should have just simply ignored such users from the get-go rather than giving them the time of day that kept the fire lit. I respect criticism as well, and it's nice to see someone be level-headed on the ordeal. I'm sorry I played my part in this mess and in the future when issues are mentioned of other releases, I'll try to word it better so that people don't get their panties in a twist.

One thing I feel worth mentioning is, Coalgirls (and Kametsu), like any other group, is made up of humans. It's human nature to not be perfect. They've made hundreds of releases through the years. You can't ideally expect to not have at least one issue somewhere or one project where they might not have put into the work on the same level as users have come to expect of them.

Again, our statement wasn't meant as an attack on the group, but rather was our opinion of the release based on our own findings from actually looking into it. I'll try to provide further examples that better showcase what the group was referring to later. The project leader of this series is currently in the process of moving to another home so I haven't been able to reach him to get the other sign comparisons he'd originally discussed with the staff.

And I didn't mean to nor did I realize that I was coming off like some perfect elitist either. I realize my faults and I know I'm not perfect. I know our releases aren't perfect either. We strive for perfection but it's a goal that probably can't ever be met. There can always be issues we missed that are brought to our attention years later. Hence patches for v2 or v3 in some cases.

We live and we learn.

@Kristen, if you think Tenshi would like to update the release with fixed signs and dialogue, we can send you or him the finalized script when the team has completed the rest. My email address should be available to you from the comments on your blog. All the best, and hope that ChrisK and Cyras are doing good.
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11/05/2016 00:05 — Koby
I suppose.
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10/05/2016 23:37 — Anonymous
"Coalgirls signs are f*ucked", Kametsu said.  More than once.  Suggesting they were being fair and proper with such a characterization.  Refusing to retract it.

That's what started everything, Koby-punk.  Now you want to gloss it over as if you weren't the ones being jerks.


Your rationalizations are feeble.  Your misstatements are massive.  You must have very little pride to behave so dishonestly.  It will gnaw in your stomach for weeks, if there is any hope for you.

You and I know you are never going to learn a thing from this, despite admin's sage and gentle suggestions.  My only hope for you was if you were some punk kid.




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10/05/2016 22:26 — Anonymous
Did Coalgirls come to visit?!  

My utmost appreciation and respect!!

I've followed you back since near day one.  Best wishes, now and forever!!
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10/05/2016 20:56 — Cryptic
Openload is alright. I used to use it for mp4 files (which they might compress if too big - they say 1GB+ is too big, but files 400mb were getting compressed). I stopped using it since they delete inactive files, but that shouldn't be a problem here.

As for if you should use it - probably. Their downloads are more or less hassle free (granted you have adblock). Just make sure to put mp4 files, or any streamable files, in a zip archive so it doesn't get compressed.
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10/05/2016 15:41 — Anonymous: "Kristen"
You could call us old, lol. There are hardly any groups around from 2009 that are around now.
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10/05/2016 12:32 — admin
It looks nice - might give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
Anyone else have any comments/experiences?
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10/05/2016 11:58 — Anonymous
Not to mentioned others that get mentioned or had their names displayed are also being on the edge. I guess at least we didn't get to be too bored this time but damn, it is simply going overboard.
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10/05/2016 11:27 — Anonymous
Thank you to sir admin for stepping in. This fight has gone far enough, and is terribly disgracing this site and it's users.
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10/05/2016 07:48 *admin
(note: when I say 'you' I'm referring to both you and Kametsu)

Firstly, the effort being put in to achieve your quality target is laudable. I'm well aware that these tasks can be very tedious and take a lot of time, effort and dedication. I think many would thank you for the time and effort you've put in for this, even if this isn't explicitly expressed.

From what I've seen, I don't think people are particularly refuting the issues you've pointed out, and I think it's appreciated that you've gone to the effort of bringing it to our attention (as well as providing a solution!!).

What is, perhaps, being disputed is the degree to which it matters. Obviously you care about it (and it's always good to know that someone out there does!), but others may not. This is going to be subjective, people have their own opinion on the matter, and I don't think it's particularly debatable.
Please understand that people like their choices and opinions, and generally don't take nicely to suggestions that their choices are somehow inferior. Sharing opinions/criticisms etc can be useful, but know that others may not align with you. Trying to force your view on things down everyone elses' throats isn't going to end well, as you've probably figured out by now. I think you could've handled the situation a bit better by taking this into consideration; if you're going to act elitist, you're just "asking for it".

The other major mistake is how you've delivered criticism. I quite like criticism - it's informative and can spur improvements, and, as mentioned earlier, I appreciate that you've brought it forward. But it's also a bit of a delicate art at times, as, done incorrectly, can go down the wrong way. My suggestion is to try to be as objective as possible and use polite terms when delivering criticism. State what's wrong, but avoid being too opinionitive and definitely don't add inflammatory language.

I think the rest of it just snowballed from there, which is typically what happens.
Others have pointed the various pitfalls that you've stepped into, I'm only providing a bit of a summary here.
One tip: mistakes happen, we all say the wrong thing at times. Sometimes tactfully stepping back can work in your favour.

Again, I'm glad that you've provided all this information, and made us aware of what you're doing, your reasoning etc (as well as the effort put into the actual release!).
I hope that this episode doesn't discourage you from your work, and I'm sure many would love to see more. If you could be a little more considerate in future comments (than in this instance), I think that others will notice and you'll garner much more respect from everyone. And I certainly do hope that you get the respect you deserve for the work you've done.
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10/05/2016 07:47 *Koby
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10/05/2016 07:18 *Koby
It's a pretty known fact that Nyaa's numbers are not accurate, but that aside; how can you know exactly of those 15k users actually watched the release? Many probably only grabbed it to archive or upload elsewhere. Places like AnimeTosho grabbing it would technically be factored into that as well. Then we have the matter of, those who watched it, how many would actually notice if a sign was typeset and meant to appear but didn't due to the timing being off? How many actually did notice the issues but simply didn't care enough to report them? Then while you're claiming no one complained... I see a couple comments dissing the release. Then on their blog Nyanko staff even commented about the fact they used the original subs and not the batched subs, which contained translation fixes among other things. So timing and typesetting aside, the subtitles they opted to go with are confirmed to be those that haven't had translation inaccuracies fixed and this is something confirmed by the team that actually did the original subtitles. So it's not just something coming from the whole of Kametsu or myself. But go on, ignore this fact and keep trolling.

I've never said Coalgirls was a bad group. In fact I respect their group and think they've done a good job with most releases (even though outside of Kristen, Coalgirls is pretty much dead now as most of the team has been mia for the last year). Unfortunately they didn't on Nagi-Asu. It's as simple as that. It's beyond ridiculous that this trollfest even started up just because one or two anons got a little butthurt over Kametsu mentioning the issues and why they're doing the work they're doing. Apparently it's okay to cause a crapfest and attack groups for sharing issues if you're an anon, but if you're a group, it's forbidden to mention issues with another group. Shame mods haven't stepped in and did something about this already. As everything after Kametsu's original statement on the matter has just been anon's trolling.
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10/05/2016 07:11 *Koby
"could possibly one of the oldest running group right now currently still active."
Kek. Coalgirls was founded in 2009. That's a young group imo. If you can even call it a group still as it's basically just about a one man team now. Besides Kristen (and one release by Tenshi) the rest of the team has been MIA for at least a year.

As for me, I've been in the scene within various groups since 2007. While Kametsu did their first release in 2009 (same year Coalgirls was founded) although the original site was founded in 2004. So we're technically older than Coalgirls.

If you're going to troll, at least obtain some knowledge of the subject matter first.
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